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Chapter 7 — Interest

  Naruto had just gotten out of the bath. Steam still hung in the air of the bathroom like a thin mist, and droplets slid down the wooden walls with a steady sound—almost hypnotic. The house was too small for secrets. Any noise became part of the room; any footstep echoed as if the whole pce were listening. He liked that. Big houses had blind corners. Blind corners were space for surprises. And in that world, surprises rarely came as gifts.

  He dried his hair calmly, rubbing until the slightly reddish tips turned even more unruly, and began getting dressed with the same methodical care as always. A pin white shirt, dark shorts—nothing fshy. A normal child wouldn’t care about that. A normal child also wouldn’t have, inside his chest, an ancient presence that seemed to ugh whenever he tried to be gentle.

  He had just pulled his shirt down when he heard a knock at the door.

  Three taps.

  Not hard. Not rushed. Just enough to announce: I’m here.

  Naruto froze for half a second. Not because he was surprised—surprise was for people who still had the luxury of believing the world was random—but because the timing was… specific. Late enough for the vilge to be quiet. Late enough that the visit wouldn’t be casual.

  He didn’t need to think much to know who it was. Only one person visited him… and, more importantly, only one person would choose the night for it.

  “Coming!” he shouted, speeding up without losing control. His voice came out childish enough to match his body, but his brain was already organizing possibilities. 'If it’s him, he came out of guilt or politics. Maybe both.'

  Naruto walked to the door and, before opening it, took a deep breath. An old habit. A way to keep his face neutral. To keep his heart in the right pce.

  When he opened the door, Hiruzen was standing there.

  The old man wore a dark cloak over his usual clothes, no showmanship. His face looked more tired than it had in the morning, as if the day’s weight had piled up behind his eyes. Still, his posture was firm—the kind of firmness belonging to someone who had commanded a war and survived to carry peace, even if peace was just a slower war.

  “Good evening, Naruto… sorry to come this te.”

  Naruto scanned the surroundings by instinct, careful not to move his head too much. The street was quiet. No one was there. But he knew better than to trust silence.

  ANBU, probably. He wouldn’t come alone to the jinchūriki’s house.

  He didn’t show anything. He simply stepped back.

  “It’s okay, Gramps. Come in.”

  The word “Gramps” had a curious effect. It was easy to say—because that mask was useful—and at the same time it left a strange taste. Naruto remembered what it was like to be ignored, to be looked at like a disease, to be treated like a walking risk. Hiruzen was one of the few who, even while failing, still tried to be human.

  And humans… could be useful.

  Hiruzen entered with calm steps. Naruto closed the door and guided the old man to the table. The house had no luxury, but it had order. The floor was clean. The few pieces of furniture were in pce. The air smelled of cheap soap and damp wood.

  They sat across from each other.

  Silence filled the room.

  It wasn’t empty silence. It was the kind that grows when two people know any word can become something huge. Naruto let it exist. Let it press on Hiruzen first.

  The Hokage spent a few seconds staring at the tabletop, as if choosing which door to walk through inside himself. Then he let out a tired sigh—a sigh that seemed to carry years.

  “I know you’re holding resentment toward me.” His voice was steady, but something behind it was cracked. “I’m not here to tell you to stop… or to demand that you forgive me. I just want you to hear what I have to say.”

  Naruto didn’t say anything. He just listened.

  He didn’t cross his arms. Didn’t frown. Didn’t tilt his head like a curious child. He stayed still, as if he were an audience and not a grandson. Because, deep down, that’s what he was.

  Hiruzen began to speak.

  He spoke about Minato.

  About how that blond boy—too bright to fit in a normal world—had become a man who carried the entire vilge on his shoulders without compining. About missions, strategies, rare ughs between wars. About how Minato had an irritating kind of kindness—the kind that made even enemies hesitate for a second before hating him.

  He spoke about Kushina.

  Not only the jinchūriki. Not only “the Uzumaki.” He spoke about the woman: the stubbornness, the temper, the way she walked into a room and made people realize the air had an owner. About how she always looked one breath away from exploding… and yet, at the same time, she was someone who protected with her body, her voice, her will.

  And then he spoke about the night of the attack.

  The vilge burning. The smell of blood and charred wood. Chaos without logic. The feeling of helplessness—the worst feeling for someone who carried a title like his.

  Hiruzen didn’t romanticize it. He didn’t tell it like a “story.” He told it like a memory.

  He said he arrived and saw Minato dead.

  He said he saw Kushina at her limit—alive out of sheer stubbornness, dying because fate demanded it.

  He said he promised.

  And as he said that, his hand tightened slightly around the table’s edge, as if his body remembered that vow and hated what came after.

  “I swore I would take care of you,” he said, and the “you” sounded like a physical weight. “I swore… as Hokage. And as someone who… owed them that.”

  Naruto remained silent.

  Inside, the pieces clicked together. Not because he was learning something new—he already knew. The story had been in his head since another life. The entire world had been read, watched, repeated. But hearing it like that, with that weary honesty… was different.

  It didn’t erase the past.

  But it gave shape to the mistake.

  Hiruzen also spoke about politics.

  About the Council. About the cns. About invisible pressures cutting behind the Hokage’s title. About how a jinchūriki wasn’t treated like a child—he was treated like a weapon. About how the name “son of the Fourth Hokage” wasn’t affection, it was a target sign.

  “I thought keeping you distant… keeping your name hidden… keeping you out of the center… was protection,” he admitted. “And in part, it was. But I… I also used that as an excuse to push certain responsibilities away.”

  Naruto almost ughed inside. Finally.

  That was what he wanted from Hiruzen: not pity, not sentimental speeches, but the kind of honesty that made room for negotiation.

  Hiruzen continued.

  He said he was afraid.

  Afraid of what Naruto carried. Afraid of what the vilge would do to him. Afraid that if he pressed too hard, the seal would break. Afraid that if he opened things too wide, outside forces would come to take what was being “stored” there.

  And in the end, through fear and calcution, he had done the bare minimum.

  He had left Naruto alone.

  And hearing it like that, without a pretty justification, sounded even crueler.

  When Hiruzen finished, the air went quiet again.

  Naruto let the silence st just long enough that it wouldn’t seem like he’d been waiting for an opening.

  Then he sighed too.

  In the end, with what he knew of the story and the years he’d lived with Hiruzen, he knew the old man wasn’t a bad person.

  He was human.

  And like all humans, he made mistakes, had ambitions… but also had a heart capable of caring and regretting.

  Naruto lifted his eyes.

  “A wound doesn’t heal overnight,” he said slowly, letting the sentence drop like a stone into a deep well, “but with time… it tends to close.”

  That sounded far too mature for a four-year-old. But Hiruzen had already grown used to the precocious maturity of the little boy in front of him.

  The old man managed a small smile—not happy, but relieved—and reached over the table to ruffle Naruto’s hair with careful affection, as if afraid he might break something.

  “Thank you,” he murmured.

  That “thank you” sounded like it had been pulled from the bottom of his soul.

  Naruto allowed himself a faint smile as well. That feeling—of someone truly caring about you… wasn’t bad at all.

  'It doesn’t change what happened,' he thought, keeping his face calm. 'But… it changes what happens from here on out.'

  They stayed in that moment for a few more minutes. The silence was different now. Not tension. A kind of short rest, like two soldiers leaning back against the same wall before returning to war.

  Until Naruto broke it.

  “Gramps… I need your help with something.”

  Hiruzen blinked, as if the request was expected and still caught him by reflex. He nodded.

  “Of course. Tell me what you need.”

  Naruto rested his elbows on the table, unconsciously mimicking the posture of someone who pnned. His expression turned serious again. Not cold. Just… focused.

  “I have money,” he began, simply. “A lot of money.”

  Hiruzen didn’t react with shock—he couldn’t. He himself had taken part in the negotiation that morning. Still, the way Naruto said it… as if money were just a tool… made the old man pay even closer attention.

  “And I know I could just keep it,” Naruto continued. “But money sitting still… is money dying.”

  Hiruzen narrowed his eyes for a moment.

  Naruto went on, keeping his voice childish enough not to sound absurd, but pcing each word exactly where it would hit an adult.

  “So I need to make it grow.” He paused briefly, looking at Hiruzen as if testing whether the old man was following.

  And Hiruzen was following.

  “And I had an idea,” Naruto said. “An ugly idea… but a good one.”

  The Hokage raised an eyebrow.

  “Ugly?”

  Naruto shrugged—a small, almost innocent gesture.

  “Interest.”

  Hiruzen went still for a second. The word was simple, common—but coming from a child, it sounded like a forbidden jutsu spoken out loud.

  So Naruto expined.

  He expined his idea of opening a business focused on loans with interest. He spoke without hurry, like someone who’d already built the entire scheme in his head and now only needed to transte it for someone with the power to execute it.

  He expined that merchants needed capital. That missions didn’t always pay quickly. That shinobi were constantly buying tools, medicine, equipment—and not everyone had savings.

  That when someone needed money, it usually came down to two options: sell something important or swallow their pride and beg for a favor.

  “And that favor is expensive,” Naruto said simply. “Sometimes more expensive than interest.”

  Hiruzen watched in silence, and Naruto noticed the shift. The old man wasn’t listening like a grandfather anymore. He was listening like Hokage.

  Naruto continued, moving to the part that mattered.

  “I don’t want to be just some loan shark.” He made a point of using the wrong term on purpose, as if he were only a kid talking. “I want the vilge to do it.”

  Hiruzen took a deeper breath.

  Naruto expined the reason with almost cruel crity.

  “If I lend money on my own, someone might try to rob me. Or kill me so they don’t have to pay. Or just disappear.” He tilted his head. “But if the vilge lends it… no one has the guts to try to screw over one of the Five Great Vilges.”

  The sentence sounded simple. But it carried a truth Hiruzen knew better than anyone: state power was the kind of power that turned debt into chains.

  Naruto didn’t stop there.

  He talked about rules.

  He talked about guarantees—how a loan should have something like “colteral,” even if he didn’t use the word. He talked about deadlines. He talked about lower interest for civilians and adjusted interest for shinobi who could pay through missions. He talked about the possibility of deducting part of the payment straight from the mission office, to reduce default.

  He even talked about how it could strengthen Konoha.

  “If commerce grows, the vilge collects more,” he said, as if it were obvious. “If the vilge collects more, it can train more shinobi. It can pay more. It can buy more.” He looked straight at Hiruzen. “And… if regur people feel like the vilge helps, they hate less easily.”

  He said that st part more quietly. Not like a request. Like an observation.

  Hiruzen didn’t answer for a few seconds, as if he were weighing not just the idea… but what the idea revealed about Naruto.

  The more Hiruzen listened, the more surprised he became.

  It wasn’t just “intelligence.” It was pragmatism. The kind of thinking that normally showed up in advisors, not children. And yet it came with a detail Hiruzen didn’t ignore: Naruto wasn’t asking to py at business.

  Naruto was asking for structure. For indirect power.

  Hiruzen’s eyes gleamed.

  This was a huge opportunity.

  Not only because of the money.

  But because of what it meant: keeping Naruto tied to the vilge. Giving him a path that wasn’t just “be a weapon.” Turning that child— that force—into part of the system instead of a risk outside it.

  And at the same time… Hiruzen also saw the other side.

  He saw the danger.

  Because interest could feed prosperity… or it could breed resentment. It could become a tool of control. It could become a rope around the neck of people who already lived squeezed tight.

  “You understand,” Hiruzen said slowly, “that this can… trap people?”

  Naruto held his gaze.

  “I understand,” he replied, simple. “That’s why I want it to be the vilge. With rules. With limits.” He shrugged again, small. “And… if someone doesn’t want it, they don’t take it.”

  It was far too cold an answer for a child.

  But it was real.

  And Hiruzen—whether he liked it or not—lived on real decisions.

  When their eyes met, there seemed to be a tacit understanding between them.

  In the end, humans were, for the most part, creatures moved by desire.

  And in that moment, “Grandson” and “Grandfather” seemed to discover they had more in common than they’d thought.

  Hiruzen let out a sigh—but this one wasn’t guilt. It was the sigh of someone already doing the math.

  “This… needs to be done carefully,” he said. “If the Council hears about it the wrong way, they’ll say we’re exploiting civilians. If it’s too fast, it’ll draw attention. If it’s too slow, it changes nothing.”

  Naruto nodded.

  “I’m not in a hurry,” he lied calmly.

  'I am. I just can’t look like I am.'

  Hiruzen stood slowly. His old body compined in silence, but his mind seemed sharper than when he’d entered.

  “I’ll think about how to structure it,” he said. “In a way that’s… discreet. And safe. For you. And for the vilge.”

  Naruto didn’t smile wide. He just nodded, as if that had been the expected result from the start.

  Hiruzen walked to the door, and before leaving, he looked back at Naruto over his shoulder.

  “You… shouldn’t have had to go through all that alone,” he said quietly, with an honesty that hurt.

  Naruto stayed still for a moment.

  And for a rare second, he didn’t answer like a strategist.

  He answered like someone who, despite everything, still carried an old emptiness.

  “I did,” he said. “But… I don’t intend to keep doing it.”

  Hiruzen held his gaze for one more second. Then he nodded.

  And left.

  The door closed.

  Silence returned.

  Naruto stared at the wood for a few moments, listening—outside—to footsteps he couldn’t see, shadows moving without sound, the vilge pretending to sleep while protecting and watching at the same time.

  He took a deep breath.

  Interest. Power. Structure.

  The idea was ugly.

  But the world was ugly.

  And deep down, he felt that presence behind his chest again—that ancient vibration—as if something inside him was… amused.

  Naruto closed his eyes for a moment.

  “Laugh all you want,” he murmured, low, to no one and to someone at the same time. “I’m going to win either way.”

  And then he went back to the table, to order, to control—because if there was one thing he couldn’t allow himself to lose… it was control.

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